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 01-15-2018, 01:02 Post: 120201
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 Legacy Puma P92 lever action rifle in .454 Casull

That one would make me a little nervous. Some 454 loads generate about twice as much pressure as the 44 Magnum.

Even taking modern metallurgy into account, that just seems like it is over the line in a 114 year old rear-locking action design.

Then there is the recoil factor. It would be like touching off a 45-70 in a 6 pound rifle with a compromised stock design.

If I was really hot on the trail of such a companion rifle I might find a nice used Ruger No.1 and have it re-chambered or re-barreled to 454.






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 01-15-2018, 20:40 Post: 120205
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 Legacy Puma P92 lever action rifle in .454 Casull

I think Marlin makes the best lever guns in the world. Everyone else is second fiddle, especially since Winchester is closing their doors.

The .357 carbine with the right factory loads has the same power at close range as standard 30-30 loads. I can refer you to some web pages with that info.

The 44 mag carbine, again with the right loads, will shoot clean through any animal in this hemisphere..... including Kodiak bears.

A Marlin 45 Colt model 94 should do about anything the 44 will do. A viable option for you might be to load your Ruger with heavy 45 Colt loads from Corbon, Buffalo Bore and others, and carry the same in a Marlin carbine.

Heavy 45 Colt loads, IMHO, will do anything you can do with Casull loads and will do it with less pressure and wear and tear on the guns, to say nothing of your wrists and ears.

After you have reached the threshold of shooting through the largest critter on the Continent from almost any angle, what good is even more power?






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 01-17-2018, 02:07 Post: 120211
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 Legacy Puma P92 lever action rifle in .454 Casull

I dug through my stack of magazines and found a very informative article of the 454 carbine in the Jan 2006 issue of Rifle.

It is authored by Brian Pearce, a straight shooter and honest kind of guy.

I would be happy to copy/jpeg it to you if you are interested.

He writes about a couple of folks with thousands of rounds through their rifles without problems and also details the testing procedures used by H.P. White labs to certify the rifle.

Let me know.........






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 01-17-2018, 11:56 Post: 120213
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Yooper......... did the e-mail come through?

I am concerned that the format might be too small to read well. I can resend in a larger format if necessary.






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 01-17-2018, 21:45 Post: 120215
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 Legacy Puma P92 lever action rifle in .454 Casull

When I did a web search I figured out that Legacy Sports is only 25 miles from my house.

Also noticed that they make the same thing in 480 Ruger.

I wonder if they are going for the 50 S&W next???

I think I will stick to my Marlin 45-70 for the big bore lever medicine.

At .458 it just about splits the difference between a .451 Colt/Casull and a .475 bullets in the Ruger chambering.

Last year, Brian Pierce(the guy who wrote the article I sent)took his Marlin 45-70 and Cor-Bon ammo to Africa to hunt Cape Buffalo.

He whacked an old bull and the bullet penetrated both shoulders and exited. While examining the kill they found that a cow had been standing just out of sight beyond the bull and the bullet had taken her through the shoulders and killed her too.

Kinda hard to beat that sort of power. I don't think my 416 Rigby will shoot through that much meat.






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 01-18-2018, 07:33 Post: 120217
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 Legacy Puma P92 lever action rifle in .454 Casull

Black bears are not nearly as had to kill as a Brown bear or a Kodiak. You would not believe the crop of fur those critters can grow in a place with really cold winters.

I shot a two year old Brownie off someones porch with a 12 gauge Brenneke slug some years back. The slug went though the bear lengthwise and into the dirt behind it.

At first I didn't recognize the slug because it had a wad of hair clinging to it that would have filled a small teacup.

Investigation revealed it had cut all that material at the entrance hole and drug it all the way through the critter.

I became a believer in heavy bullets that day.

Glad you got the article OK. You have been very kind to me in the past and it is a pleasure to return a favor.






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 01-18-2018, 12:28 Post: 120218
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BTW.... if you think a buck a pop is expensive shooting, stay away from the 416 Rigby.

The retail is about $6.25 a cartridge. Thank God for reloading presses.

Like you said, it was too hard to pass on a gun at wholesale price.






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 01-20-2018, 08:38 Post: 120231
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LET THE FUN BEGIN!

After you shoot it and get back for the orthopedic surgeon, Smile

let us know how you like it.






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