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 11-11-2017, 10:16 Post: 111161
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 .17HMR vs: .17Mach2 cartridge

Last Year I bought a rifle with .17HMR and was not totally pleased with the performance however have not done lots of shooting with it to be sure. I see a new .17Mach2 that is now out and many have adopted it. Does anyone know the story behind the two?

I know the .17HMR was developed by Hornady. They have also private branded some ammo with a different tip that has no accuracy in my rifle. I have an el-cheapo rifle which may be the problem. I found the .17HMR to drift with fluctuations in a cross wind at even 50 yards.

Wish I would have bought the old .22Mag for its reliability. I'm looking for something more potent than a .22 long and have .223 and .22-250 for long range shooting.






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 11-12-2017, 15:43 Post: 111174
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In Michigan we are allowed to hunt varmints after dark but only with rimfire cartridges. I wanted some new high tech caliber just for fun!

I bought an H&R single shot which is a cheapy and can get another barrel for it. Chances are I'll get a .22 mag. to compare performance.

Looks like the .17Mach2 will be a more popular round in the years to come.

I also have a bolt action rifle chambered for .22 long rifle. Shooting .22 CCI Stingers works well also. Hindsight tells me I should have stuck with the older reliable ammo.

I'm thinking the same thing about all of the new short magnums coming out these days. There are too many and some will fall by the wayside over the years to come.






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 11-13-2017, 06:26 Post: 111189
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I hunt on both private and public land. The private land allows me to do pretty much anything I want. My AR-15 shooting .223 with target barrel and 15 round clip equipped with night vision works well on this remote land.

For long range daylight shooting on diked trails I use my Browning .22-250 with Leupold 6 1/2-20 Vari-XIII. I also have a Harris bi-pod set-up.

This fall/winter with a fur bearer's license I plan on hunting fox and coyote along the banks of the AuSable River near Oscoda which is public land. It is filled with tracks during winter months and have located a number of dens. The hair filled droppings are another clue.

Best hunting is at dusk or slightly after. Have a Johnny Stewart CD and player.






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 11-14-2017, 21:42 Post: 111234
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I should never have purchased the .17HMR but have it now and will stick with it. In a moment of passion for something new I made the purchase but only bought a cheapie gun so nothing was really lost. I'm told the .17HMR will dust a fox or coyote quite easily if properly placed. Chances are a .22 Stinger or .22Mag would have done the same thing for evening hunting shots. I can't argue with the reasoning behind Michigan DNR laws. Got to give the animals some sort of chance.

On my farm which is open land with 1/2 mile depth to a RR and neighbors on each side that are about 300 and 600 yards away, I'm concerned about shooting a .223 at rodents, etc.

I have a shooting box set-up which is 2ft square x 4" thick with sand and a 1/2" thick steel plate behind it for carefully plinking any round.

Even with the .22Long Rifle, I'm nervous about a side shot at a racoon. Many of my coons won't fit in a cage type trap since they're big. Ones that do fit in the cage can take about 2 head shots and several lung shots with a .22 before letting them out of the cage. Sometimes, they still do lunge and hiss at you.

I chose the .17HMR since I was told the ballistics are so great with the small projectile that it explodes upon impact with the ground. This would hopefully stop stray rounds from getting at the neighbors.

I normally don't pack a rifle in my car and with my CCW, rifles aren't included. You're not supposed to go driving around with a rifle in your car unless it is for hunting purposes, you have a license, and it is in season.

I have bunches of stray cats at the farm that you can't get much less than 15 yeads away from. They push out my farm cats and eat all the food. They watch my tame cats get caught in the live trap but won't go inside themselves. Then they urinate all over inside my barn and on tools and everywhere.

I carry a .357Mag and it isn't doing the job for cats that I want. The .357Mag hollow point don't expand, so the impact point must be right on to be instantaneously effective. Being a pistol, I can't get quite the accuracy needed. I can only hold about a 2 " pattern at 15 yards with most being in a 1" circle (8 3/8" barrel length). I'm not into torture or cruelty to animals. These stray cats gotta go but not on my tools, tractors, etc. Nothing like stepping into something just before mounting the tractor or getting back into your truck.






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 11-15-2017, 17:20 Post: 111240
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Shortmagnum:
It is actually a NEF but like you said H&R and them are the same creature. The finish is like black oxide and so rough that you can't wipe it decent without snagging your rag/cloth. If you don't keep it dripping wet with oil, finger prints will rust in a couple of hours use.

With a Bushnell 3-9X scope and rest, I expected to be able to virtually drive tacks at 25-50 yards. If you use CCI ammo you can't hold a 3" pattern. The Hornady ammo gets closer to 1" but has an occasional flyer. I'm angry about this but don't know who to blame; the gun, the ammo or me!

I can do that with my Marlin or Savage .22 long rifle and 2 1/2X scope.






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 12-20-2017, 21:25 Post: 120014
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After further testing and shooting, I've found that my .17HMR New England Firearms single shot only likes the Hornady .17 grain bullets. The CCI's do not shoot well and can be off by several inches. I'm going to also try some Winchester rounds. I've been told that CCI makes them all for Hornady, etc. but they all have different tips and grains.

Wind drift is a problem! The killing power of these little buggers is undeniable. The Hornady ammo prices have recently dropped by almost $2.00 a box.

I'm still somewhat disappointed in the accuracy of the round, although it may be just me. I was hoping for lots less than an inch at 50 yards.






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