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 06-27-2017, 20:04 Post: 63895
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I think you guys under-estimate the off-road ability of a golf cart. Take from someone who has seen what they can do, completely stock they are incredible, customized for the task they are UNBELIEVABLE.

That's right, I said CUSTOMIZED, there are many companies out there that make off-road parts and whole kits for such purpose.

Several of my younger employees have taken to this, one of whom I might add had to be asked to stop wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with "Ride it like you STOLE it!!!" to work.

See the link below for some neat stuff for the brave at heart. It's interesting reading if nothing else, or just search by "off-road golf cart" on your favourite search engine.

BTW Art, I have tried a couple of these 'customized' golf carts on trails around my place, they ride so nicely you'll seriously wonder why you sat on a 4-wheeler so many years, especially after a long ride. The kids took theirs on a 4 day trek last fall, they covered about 70 miles a day for 4 days straight. Apparently they shocked a lot of ardent 4-wheel enthusiasts who came across them along the way.

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 06-28-2017, 15:42 Post: 63939
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Dave, it's surprising where one of those little suckers will go with nothing more than a swap of the rear two tires to something with a little more bite, lawn tractor tires work weel, as do ATV knobby tires.

If you figure at paying $1,000 to $2,000 for a decent unit in good condition, another $1,000 for an 'off-road' conversion, the price makes sense.

Personally, unless the going is REALLY tough, I wouldn't do anything but the tire swap.

I need to look through my pic. collection, somewhere I have one of a snaowmobile conversion of an EZ-GO an ice fishing cabin rental place did, they replaced each front wheel with a ski and then put an idler axle out back with a slip on track around the pair on each side. It worked pretty good and was VERY effective.

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 06-29-2017, 11:20 Post: 63959
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Speed is the end relationship between horsepower & gearing. Putting on bigger tires makes for more top-end speed at the expense of bottom-end power.

Gas or electric is a whole other subject.

The ones I've seen have a top-end similar to stock units.

The off-road, including hill-climbing abilities of these things are pretty good, especially at low speeds.

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 06-30-2017, 16:47 Post: 64014
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Actually if you don't have long distances to cover the electric is superior in a lot of ways, plus with an electric cart you have the option of 4 wheel drive, yup, I said FOUR WHEEL DRIVE.

They have one of these things at the marina in FL I frequent, they use it for moving & launching boats and general run-around chores in the yard. Unbelievable power, the factory motor is in the neighbourhood of 3hp, the aftermarket unit is 11+ hp, BIG difference.

The modified electric units will do 20 mph, and have a nearly 30 mile range on a single charge.

Check out the link below to Hunting Shop below that sells everything you need for these buggies.

BTW, they are UNSURPASSED for hunting, you can get so close to game before they even know you're there it's incredible, one of the fellows here complains constantly about almost getting run over by deer coming the other way, or coming over a hill and a herd standing in the middle of the trail. Around my house you can get so close to the wild turkeys before they move off you almost have to bump them to get them off the trail.

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 07-01-2017, 07:30 Post: 64045
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Dave, mine is a Yamaha gas unit, the main reason why was the lack of attebtion required, if I forget to plug in an electric it's dead, the gas just goes when you step on the pedal. Besides I take it to the cottage or farm lots and the gas unit is just more convenient for that.

The new version is called a "G-Max" but mine is a G9A, they're basically the same unit though, top speed is a blistering 15 mph, but that doesn't seem to change much up hill or down, so it is obviously not all it is capable of.

The engine is a 357cc single cylinder 4 stroke, really quiet and smooth.

There are not as many 'off road' parts available as for the EZ-GO but as Art mentioned it is a better unit all round.

They do now make an off-road utility vehicle though, it is even part-time 4WD, it is called the "Side by Side", but it is a LOT more money.

The link below is for one of the biggest after-market customizer, mostly for people haulers though, around for Yamaha Golf Cars, they are in Texas.






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 07-01-2017, 17:19 Post: 64049
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Dave, the local Yamaha golf car distributor, who is also the areas largest Toro turf equipment & irrigation equipment distributor usually has a good selection of used cars in stock, however I'm not sure how much cheaper they would be, even with the exchange rates, they are not known for their discount prices, nudge, nudge, can you say 'exclusive territiory'.

I was looking at their site, and even though it is a little out of date, it still shows that the used units are about US$1500 to US$1750 (CDN$200 to CDN$2500) but mind you they are not junk either.

As for the lift kits, knobby tires, etc., a lot of non-golf users up here do nothing more than swap the back two tires for standard lawn tractor tires and go. You would only need a lift kit and aggresive tires to venture into the really tough stuff, they're pretty good off-road right from the factory.

Mine was actually a contra deal, we did some work on the house of the owner of one of the courses I deal with and forgot to bill him, he in turn forgot where he left one of his golf cars....Laughing out loud

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 07-04-2017, 09:07 Post: 64135
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Dave, the link to the Canadian supplier is at the bottom of my reply, it is "Turf Care".

Mark, you certainly can take a genset along, I know several people that do just that, the problem however is the newer units are 48v. systems, they use 4 seperate 12v. batteries wired together, so in order to charge them properly you would need 4 seperate chargers, or a 4 circuit charger which is a pretty pricey thing.

Art, I listed the link to the Yamaha after-markey supplier in Texas in one of my posts on this thread already. Take my word for it, the FIRST thing you want to do is get rid of those factory tires on the back, for a temporary cure get a tire grooving iron and cut the tread into squares instead of those useless grooved slicks.

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 07-04-2017, 18:56 Post: 64170
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Art, we obviously share some automotive secrets.

However, as I get older my nose prefers the aroma of a good cigar to that of a circular saw blade going through a tire backwards.

I have discovered thought that with just a little bit of fiddling one of the those Weller 'instant hot' soldering guns can be adapted to tire grooving quitte nicely, Laughing out loud.

If you need to 'adjust' your wife's concept of fast I can loan you my V-12 BMW, I promise you she will think the cart is TAME after a little spin down the Interstate, Laughing out loud.

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 07-06-2017, 10:11 Post: 64255
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Sorry Dave, I should have mentioned they are strictly wholesale to the industry.

I know the people in Aurora you are talking about, I've dealt with them a few times over the years and I think you're being overly charitable, I would have said the backwoods of Alabama.....

Think hard about the electric cart too Dave, they are the only way you can get 4WD, and a few hoours on a genset is all you need, if you want to get lazy, get a couple sets of booster cables and let thaty big ACDelco alternator do it's thing. You get about 25 mile range on a charge and they are so fast and powerful yet so close to silent it's spooky.

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 07-06-2017, 20:00 Post: 64310
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I can certainly relate to your comments Dave, however I think that your experiences had more to do with batteries that were well past their prime and / or not fully charged.

Besides if you've ever been in an electric cart with good batteries, and the bigger, more efficient motor & controller you'd never even CONSIDER a gas cart, electric motors are by virtue of their design kick-a%# for such tasks to start with, when you consider you can easily put an 15+hp motor on an electric cart, 30+hp if you have 4wd, when you MIGHT get 8hp out of a gas cart there's just no comparison.

The new top-end electrics also have a built in regeneration circuit, when you go downhill and the cart reaches a set speed the electronics convert the motor to a generator and it uses the load of charging the batteries to limit the speed, while converting the energy to battery capacity.

Besides, as I said earlier, you can only have 4wd in an electric unit. Have a look at the bootom photo on the pager link below and you'll see what I mean about their capabilities.

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 07-07-2017, 05:49 Post: 64314
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I can believe that, one of the kids that works for me has an older E-Z-Go with a 600cc Rotax snowmobile engine in it.

They clocked it by pacing it with a car, they got as fast as 65mph before it got to "spooky" (his words) and they decided they really didn't need to find out what the top end was, they changed the clutch setup to a 'more torque' mode and added bigger tires.

The sky is the limit.

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 07-07-2017, 15:38 Post: 64332
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Dave, contact those good 'ole boys at the Big Game Pro Shop in my previous reply, they will sell you a 48v conversion kit for $400 (including the charger) and T-145 batteries for $100 a pop.

If you're going to upgrade anyways you might get a deal on a 'Handyman Special' with a suspect motor and no batteries, instead of paying for one in good condition and throwing away perfectly serviceable parts.

Don't forget you can always pack a genset along with you to recharge the batteries, if you check the spec.'s on those chargers I think you'll find it doesn't take much 120v power to crank up a 12v charger, every amp at 120v is 10 amps at 12v. those little whisper quiet Honda suitcase jobs would probably do the trick.

Besides, after the rifle goes bang the deer don't seem to mind the sound of a generator at all .... Laughing out loud

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 07-08-2017, 01:27 Post: 64346
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Dave, don't misled, batteries are NOT all the same.

T-875's have only 438 LEU's (Life Energy Units) the T-145's have 673 LEU's, the T-875's have only 295 minutes at a nominal 25 amps load, while the T-145's have 530 minutes at the same load, at 75 amps it jumps to 145 fr the T-145's while the T-875's have only 75 minutes at that load.

Those T-875's are the type of battery you were talking about pushing uphill for the last few hills.

I was talking about buying a 'handyman special' for $500 to $750 then adding all those little goodies on yourself. Most of the parts are readily available for little money and easily replaced with no special tools or facilities.

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 07-08-2017, 16:10 Post: 64361
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First of all I wouldn't buy a 1999 to run around the woods with, if you're going to re-build anyways a unit as old as 20 years will still do the job just fine.

Have a look at the selection on the link below for the cheapie handyman specials. They have some old but VERY rebuildables for as little as $250, gas & electric. I would think you could do a lot of 're-conditioning' for the difference between these units and the premiums ones.

www dot blackbarngolfcars dot com

You're right about the noise though, the gas jobs are very quiet.

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 07-11-2017, 12:52 Post: 64547
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IMHO, I would buy a $500 special and then re-do it, that way you KNOW exactly what kind of shape it's in.

10 miles up a game trail is NOT the best place to have mechanical problems...

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 07-17-2017, 21:00 Post: 64710
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Dave, "SFRNSCTASH" 10 characters..... Laughing out loud .... or staying with the French theme "JENESAQUOI"...Rolling on the floor laughingMAO.

Seriously though, the lift kits are unbolt old parts bolt in new parts, strictly swap only, no fabricating or customizing required. The hardest part of the whole operation is getting to the underside of the unit to do the work, my guys use one of a FEL to stand the cart on it;'s rear end then work straight on standing up, sounds more convenient to me than laying upside down with 10 years of dirt falling in your eyes.

Power options are only limited by availability of parts, imagination and desire, I've seen some pretty strange options, there's a guy in Arizona who apparently puts 1200cc. VW engines in them.

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 07-18-2017, 16:38 Post: 64726
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Dave, you forgot about the truly French-Canadian culinary masterpeice called "poutine", which is apparently Quebcois for "heart attack waiting to happen". French fries covered in cheese curds and gravy ... mmmmmm, pass the ketchup.

As for the cart, I always subscribed to the "I built it myself, I know what's in it & if it breaks it's nobodys fault but my own." theory.

Go for the replacement axle, etc., the geometry doesn't work right with just lift blocks, and the blocks are not as likely to last if you take on rough country regularly.

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