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I figured my neighbors were getting POed at me for shooting rabbits with my .22 so I bought a .17 cal air rifle at Gander Mtn. I had never seen a Remington before so I bought one. After checking I found that it's a Chinese made Crosman. Remington doesn't even list it on their website. I suppose I was a bit enamored by the nice shiny wood stock (typical Remington finish) instead of the usual clunky chunk of wood most air rifles have.
I was warned that I wouldn't be able to shoot with any precision with the scope mounted. Two other guys at work have already gone through this with Crosman and Gamo rifles. Because you cock the gun at the center of the barrel and the scope is mounted near the "receiver," the barrel never actually points in the same direction twice due to the slop at the pivot point.
Sure enough even at 10 yds I had a spread of about 2 1/2" for a three shot group. I waited a couple of days to try again and it was just as bad. After taking the scope off the holes in my first 3 shot group were just about touching each other. It seems that both open sights are mounted on the front half of the barrel so they are always aligned with the trajectory.
I'm a little disappointed. First, I liked the looks of the gun with a scope, and second I don't see as well as I used to so the scope would have been beneficial. It's not a bad scope so I can put it on a single shot .22 that I've got.
Does anyone have any ideas on mounting a lazer sight on the gun? It would have to clamp on to the front barrel or the same slop would affect it as the optical scope.
Dave
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I have a laser sight on one of my .22 pistols. It is a Browning Buckmark that has a rail. If you mounted a pistol style laser sight forward enough to position it the same distance from your eye as when shooting a pistol would it be in a position where it could mount directly to the barrel? You could then possibly make a two piece clamp arrangement with a rail on top to mount the laser. Most barrels have a slight taper so you would need a tapered hole.
I've never liked mine. The batteries go dead quite quickly and seeing it in daylight isn't that great. I paid about $100.00 for it.
I also have a cheapie assault rifle fixed up with a projecting laser that has a clamp attachment. I also don't like that either and definitely don't work in daylight. You can bump it quite easily and you are off several feet.
The most recent thing I done is purchase a new set of trifocal glasses with an executive cut. That means each lense is ground the full width. When shooting open sights normal multi-lenses are only cut in a circular patch on the lense about the size of a quarter. When looking down the sights you actually look between the nosepiece and this lense so you are only seeing with your distance vision grind. I need my bifocal for seeing through the rear sight clearly, my trifocal to see the front sight and distant vision for the object. I toggle my head up and down with my chin on the stock and have good success with that. I got about $250.00 in a new pair of glasses and lenses and now have back-up glasses which can also be used for normal wearing.
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I went through the barrel cocking air gun phase and now have settled on the old fashioned "8 pumper" Benjamin.
The barrel is fixed to the action and they are very, very accurate and very easy to use with a scope. Mine is a .22 and has enough power to take down a properly hit jackrabbit at close range.
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As usual, the first time I buy something, it's never right until I get some experience. I can't understand why they market this barrel cocking type at all with scopes when you couldn't hit a rabbit if you wanted to. That 2 1/2" group at 10 yds would be over a foot at 50 yds. I guess I answered my own question, it's marketing.
Now that I'm well into my 50s I'm interested in your thoughts on glasses. I suppose you would need bi/tri focals to see both the sights plus the target. Do you have individual sections in your trifocals or are they progressives? Would progressives work with open sights?
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I have progressives and for a while they will work with open sights on rifles. However as the session progresses, on the range, I find I have difficulity focusing. I think eyes get tired?
I have read somewhere about a peep type sight for "old" eyes that works very well. Will have to recheck on google for references.
That may be the hang up with pistols. But I think the distance at arms lenght I miss a focal bands in the glasses.
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My trifocals with the executive cut have distinct lines. I don't seem to have a problem with the lines but need to rock my chin to pick up the proper lense for the object that I want to look at. Like I said before, bifocal for rear sight, trifocal for front sight and regular vision for distant objects. Regular cut lenses don't work for me since I'm looking between the normal bifocal/trifocal and the nosepiece.
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Harvey, peep sights should help "old eyes." You can poke a small hole in a piece of paper and look through it as a test. Typically you can resolve smaller objects because less of the lens diameter is used. The problem is, much less light is allowed into your eye so under low light conditions, you can't find the target. I no longer take any peep sight rifles for early morning/late evening deer hunting. They're a great sight when there's plenty of light.
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I have owned several 888's, I think crossman, I have had good luck with a scope. They were zeroed at 40 yrds. never had any problems with large black birds on the bird feeder or squrrels. After cocking I would put the barrel on the toe of my shoe and push down firmly seemed to help with the re-zero.
DRankin is correct The Benjamin is the best all around.
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Hey am I glad this thread appeared. I was just looking at spring type pellet guns for the woodchucks that continue to bore under my barn. I have been using a 410 at about 40' but it is extremely difficult as the chucks generally stick their heads out, not the entire body. I put a dozen pellet dents in the steel during one kill.
There is one brand, Gamo(?) I believe that cocks with a mechanism under the barrel. Just over 1000FPS with a scope sells for $220 at Dick's Sporting Goods.
I am still researching these guns, so any input would be appreciated.
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Hey Guys
You ONLY need to focus on the FRONT sight, the target can stay blurrey.
Trajectory?? the projectile NEVER rises above the plane of the barrel. What did you mean sighted to the trajectory??? I understand the two point intersection, where for the 7.62mm, you sight in at 50 yds(where the projectile RISES above the line of sight) and that will be the same as 300 yds when the projectile drops BELOW the line of sight. As far as the plane of the barrel, the projectile starts dropping from the plane of the barrel as soon as it leaves the muzzle. Beleive it or not the 7.62mm or .308 is 50 meters and 300 meters and the 5.56mm or .223 is 30 meters and 250 meters.
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