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Guns for self defense part Two
Doc, AMT is short for Arcadia Machine & Tool. They make among other things guns. I have a pair of twins AMT Hardballer Longslides. Not very conceilable but sweet shooting puppies once you get the sear broken in; they are kinda stiff when new. I couple hundred rounds loosens them right up. Their .380 is of similar quality; all stainless. Based on Colt models; only thing that sucks with these model but is easily fixed is the magazines. The magazines are really flimzy; just replace with a better quality mag. I am not sure on this but I thought that AMT went out of business a long time ago.
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I'll have to see if I can find a listing for one of theese on Gunsamerica. Thanx !
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To the best of my knowledge AMT is still in business. I have an AMT AUTOMAG II, (22 magnum) with a 6 inch barrel. It shoots fine but hard on the ears.
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Although they are not quite as small as the little 22s, I have a Beretta Tomcat in .32 that I like. I also have an early model AMT .380 Backup. These guns are what I would consider the minimum for self defense. They are small but effective with well placed shots.
My choice for CCW is a Glock 27 with a .357 Sig barrel.
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True confessions time.
Maybe it has to do with my size, but when I was packing iron for a living my favorite off duty guns were a S&W 1955 Target, a Smith&Wesson 1950 Army and a rebuilt (by your truly of course) Smith&Wesson 1917.
All, of course, were chambered in 45 ACP and fed with full moon or 1/3 moon clips.
I packed them in an out of print DeSantis cross-draw in-the-belt rig. In winter months I wore a vest and in summer a short sleeved shirt with the tails out concealed it quite well.
It was so effective the the only way my wife could tell if I was packing was to pat me down, and so comfortable that I would forget to take it off while I was mowing the lawn.
But that also may have had something to do with the fact that I had arrested people in my own front yard.
I am mostly glad those days are over.
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ACz, I like the little berettas as well. They are quality pieces. I just cant think of anything good to say about a .32 other than it should cycle properly Vs a 22 auto. In fact I really cant think of any situation where a .32 would be better than a .380 . Everyone has an opinion but I personally consider the 380 the smallest centerfire auto caliber for self defense. I will take a 22 over a 32 any day. I'd probably rather throw rocks than carry a 25 auto,  .
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When I was looking for a pistol for 'boat retention' purposes I did as was suggested here, I went and spoke to the local gunsmith, a wise old fart who maintained all the weapons for the local PD and most of the areas serious shooters.
His advice was to get something light and reliable and not be as concerned with size as much as weight and reliability. Stopping power was not as much of a concern as accuracy, as has been mentioned already a bazooka wont stop anything if you cant hit it.
He recomended, and I bought a S & W 422, it is a 'full size' semi-auto unit, mostly aluminum and synthetic, good for a marine environment and for reducing weight. It's not going to stop an elephant, but I can empty that 10 + 1 load of 22 LR's into a 12" circle at 25" as fast as I can pull the trigger because of the almost total lack of recoil.
I'm thinking someone with 11 hot 22 hollow points in their chest cavity is going to have a serious bouyancy and or shark problem trying to swim away from MY boat...
Best of luck.
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You might be suprised at what a 22 can bring down. I always avoided hand guns on the boat but I did have a ruger mini 30 SS. I would not have been nearly so kind to the scoundels you mentioned, lest they prey on someone else ill prepared. In my minds eye the debate ends when I am convinced I know the other partys intent, and its a BIG ocean. What the 22 lacks for in other areas it makes up in velocity and trajectory. The real problem I have with center fire cartridges smaller than the .380 is that the bullets drop like a dead fly out of the barrel. If I ever was going to even consider a 32 auto or 22 auto it would be one of the small berretas that have been mentioned. I am personally not comfortable relying on either for a concealed carry weapon, Other than that I like them all.
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On general principle I agree completely with you Doc, my first choice WAS a long gun. The problem was two-fold.
First a long gun is not always at hand and sometimes just the sight of a firearm in a holster causes an instant rethink in 'spectators', it has happened twice so far, and a big part of the attraction to Island hopping is the interaction with the locals (fresh fruits, vegetables and seafood is a real nice treat).
Secondly, and just as important, is the matter of stowage, on a high speed canoe like mine things have to be nearly welded in place to prevent movement. If you have never hit a rogue wave at 80 mph, let me tell you, it's... exhilerating... as my wife puts it "They just don't make sports bras strong enough for that!!!"
Best of luck.
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Murf, what are you running on the water that will do 80 mph with passengers and goodies?
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