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 06-18-2017, 10:20 Post: 59354
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I hear ya murf, Laughing out loud. I didnt have that porblem on the old sea ray. 12' beam kinda slows things down a bit. The Fountain I test drove was rated at 70 mph with twin 250 outboards, My knads start to shrivel about 65 which was right about where we pushed her. I have hit a rogue wave, no fun at any speed, Even in a 58 footer with a flying bridge I could hear swearing in the cabin from the capt. Then there was the day the boat got hit by lightning. I swear he came out of the top which is at least 15' up with out touching more than two stairs, then there was the water spouts. Twin 1100 hp Detroits do help with a real KICK ! and everyone was thankfull for them that day. Sadly it ended the best day of Blackfin tuna fishing on the humps ever.






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 06-18-2017, 15:14 Post: 59359
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Chief, it's a 42' Fountain Lightning, 80 mph is just fast cruising.

I got radared in a poker run just north of Art & Cutter last summer on Lake Ontario at 112 mph with 4 (VERY nervous) people and over 100 gallons of fuel onboard.

I can relate to the knads beating a hasty retreat though, we joke about the drop bottom bolster seats, they're function is to stop the little fellas being driven up into your tonsils.

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 06-18-2017, 20:09 Post: 59360
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I was thinking that it had to be a Fountain of some sort. What are you running triple 572's? Bet you can just literally watch the gas gauge go down when the loud levers are all the way forward. What kinda drives you running????? You gotta post some pics! Bet I ever got out my rig was 46 mph and that was with all the passengers farting, flapping their arms, tail wind, and the fish pushing us. Only did that one time just to check out a new prop. I usually just cruise at about 3200 rpm and that is just fine and relaxing and she does about 28 mph. I run a 16" x 16" aluminum prop and that is about the limit before over propping. Anything over 50 where there are collidable objects in or on the water it too much white knuckle boating for me. Got enough of the white knuckle stuff in the Army flying helicopters. Having over 3,800 shaft hp. strapped to your butt has some interesting moments over time. :-O






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 06-19-2017, 01:03 Post: 59363
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Chief, the 42' is only twins, and staggers at that (my preference anyways), you have to go to a 47' before you get to triples, they have a slightly wider beam, mine is only 8'6" wide which was a requirement for me for trailering it between ride sites and for the north / south trips.

I run two 504ci Fords (limited to 5600 rpm) into a pair of #6 Speedmaster dry sump drives (135 gears) which spin a pair of 4 blade cleavers.

White knuckles are a way of life...

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 12-20-2017, 06:42 Post: 120011
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I recently picked up a Bersa Thunder 380 for concealed carry.
Compact and so far very reliable. My local gun dealer carries one as well and recommended it.






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 12-20-2017, 16:31 Post: 120013
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The .380 is at the bottom of the totem pole with respect to penetration and stopping power but in some cases, size and concealability are a prime consideration. In the future, should you find yourself considering a small and concealable weapon with more power, take a look at the Colt Officers ACP. 6 shots vs. the 7 shot capacity of the Bersa. 230 grain bullet vs. the 100 grain .380 The .380 will get the job done but on a large, obese, or heavily clothed person; its limits may be tested.






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 12-23-2017, 23:02 Post: 120030
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For my wife, she has a Smith & Wesson Model 340 Airlite which is a 5 shot-.38 special that also accepts .357Mag. It doesn't have an exposed hammer and is made of the Scandium Alloy with titanium cylinder with Hogue grips. It only weighs 12oz. It is a little light in weight for shooting but is good to carry. The hope is you never have to use it. It has a hard trigger pull, so she won't have accidents pulling it from the purse or pocket. It is allot of gun for its weight. Downside, it is hard to get a good aim with the stiff double action without allot of constant practice. But at 10-16 feet away you don't need to aim. We may be getting the Crimson Trace laser grips soon.

She also has the small frame Glock 26 which is 9mm. That is the small frame with 10 shot magazine with finger extender for better grip.

I have a number of pistols and revolvers but usually go for the Sig 229 in .40 S&W caliber with lasermax sights. It is bulky for summer clothes but usually don't carry everywhere, but try to keep it close at hand.






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 12-24-2017, 08:51 Post: 120032
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Chief, agree with you that the 380 is pretty light, but it's easy for my wife to handle and is easy to conceal. Also have a Taurus Tracker .357, a Hi-Point .40 and a couple of 9mm. They are all too hard to conceal, but I carry the .357 in the truck. The Hi-Point is cheap and many laugh at it, but I've run 500+ rounds through it without a single misfire or feed failure.






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 12-24-2017, 13:45 Post: 120033
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I like my old Colt Agent 38 for carry purposes. It is a bit bulky at times, but mine has a hammer block and I like the revolver simply because I can lay the hammer over an empty chamber an still be ready to fire.






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 12-24-2017, 18:40 Post: 120034
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Yooper.... I was on the phone the other day with a guy at the service department at S&W. The subject of Air Lite 357's came up.

He said if you carry 357's in it instead of 38's and a someone with a stick attacks you, check out the size of the stick before you shoot.

If it is a small stick, take the beating, it will hurt less than shooting that thing.

BTW... you might be surprised at how easy it is to completely miss a human sized target at 15 feet under stressful conditions.






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