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Have any of you guys ever installed your gun safe in the garage. I was thinking of doing this to avoid the hassle of trying to get 860 lbs. down the basement steps.
I understand the electric drying element should eliminate any moisture problems.
I was going to lag it down on the cement floor.
Allot of people told me it is a bad idea. Moisture may still be a problem and a couple of guys with a pickup could yank it out of the floor.
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I wouldn't leave it in that environment for the reasons already given. The door will weigh one-quarter or more of the total. You may find that when the door is open two guys can lift it up and off. Without the door the safe is not only lighter but easier to carry. With some simple equipment and helpers it will be a five-minute move.
Alternately, store a dessicant of the right size in it, and heat it (to dry it) monthly or so. Store a hydrometer in it so you will know. Lagging to the floor? Picture a chain from the top to a pulling truck or whatever. An alarm system would be better.
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YP, I got a Red Head safe for Christmas and in reading the instructions they tell you NOT TO remove the door or void warranty. Have no idea why. My son in law said that was best way to move it as AB has said. It goes on to say it must be anchored to prevent it toppleing over which I wonder is just covering their butt.
Is your basement heated and cooled? Could you place it somewhere in your garage where a pickup with chain could not hook around it? Which place had you rather have your guns stored IF you needed to get to them quickly and quitely? You may be able to add a tear gas canister (made for this. They did have them built into some safes. They used glass vials.) to the inside to help stop someone if they did pull it over. Doubt it would make any difference but you may wish to see it makes any difference with your insurance company. kt
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The biggest problem with the garage is: where are your tools stores for prying, cutting and hammering.
Neighbor just had his safe broke into they used his tourch set sitting right next to the safe. DUH!
Keep your safe in a seperate location, locked in a seperate room.
My room has a "solid" wood fire rated, steel reinforced door with steel long dead bolt. Garage/shop has steel reinforced door with 4" 3/8 angle iron frame, bullet proof (I hope) deadbolt. All saws tools etc are in there.
My safe is not lagged to the floor and I have no concern about tipping. But empty it wieghs over 1200#, the door and casing had to be removed to get safe in.
I use the stuff that absorbs moisture and redry that in the oven.
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A few suggestions with respect to locating and storage in your gun safe. A couple of de-humidifiers will do wonders to keep the air moisture down. Have at least one "golden rod" installed and plugged in inside the safe at all times. I use a couple of Hydrosorb descicant containers that must be renewed in the oven periodically.
To deter "jack booted thugs" and well as perspective thieves, I recommend conspicuously placing explosive storage warning placards on the safe. This will give anyone with a minimum of common sense cause to rethink using a cutting torch.
If you live in an area overstocked with "Darwinian Candidates" a couple of 5 lb. kegs of FFFFg gun powder stored inside the safe with the container lid OPEN will likely ensure whomever attempts to gain entry into the safe will not likely live to enjoy the goodies inside. Of course this won't stop them from stealing the entire safe and then killing themselves elsewhere.
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I ended up putting the safe in the garage. I lifted it off my flatbed with FEL and tipped it upright and drove it right into position. It was a very easy install! My workshop is at the farm about 12 miles away, so no tools are conveniently available for anyone to grab. I haven't lagged it down yet, but will in the near future. I live in a small town with little or no crime, besides I also have a neighbor that watches all the local traffic. He would report any suspicious activity.
I went with the electric dehumidifier. Was going to go oversize or put two units in it, since it is in the garage. I was informed not to over-do-it since you can dry the wood stocks out.
I was told that many of their customers, just put the cardboard box that it came in over the top of the safe. It has no writing, etc. on it other than some safety stickers about weight. That kinda camoflages it and people just glance at it without thinking it is a safe. I have a jog in the wall of my garage so it is hidden from view when people are in the driveway.
I feel allot better now that they are all secure along with important papers, etc.
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