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ACZ Did You get a smoker yet ? I am not sure I could completely agree with the above statement, although I respect your opinion. I guess I would never reccomend a gun to someone with zero experience in the first place that just wanted piece of mind. The problem I have with the shotgun scenario is that like you said they do get left loaded in the corner collecting dust. They dont get put away while the owners are at work or vacation and all too often not when the kids are playing around them. Sidearm lock boxes are nice for hand guns. I do however completely agree about the hand gun reccomendation.
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#1, Colt 1911 45acp with MagSafe rounds, (Highest 1st shot hit potential of any handgun ever made). #2, Ruger Mini14 (short, light, fast), #3 Remington 11-87 semi auto short barrel cyl-choke.
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No smoker yet. No hurry here. Going with the Cabela's unit.
When it comes to gun recommendations all situations vary. Factoring kids into the equation makes securing the gun much more important. I agree with you 100% about the sidearm lockboxes. There are conflicting safety concerns and a compromise is required. Pilots say that there is nothing more useless than altitude above you. A self defense gun is equally useless if you cannot get to it or cannot use it properly.
I just know, however, that if someone has it in their head to buy a gun, I have my number one pick and that is the 12 gage pump. I realize that most of these people are going to buy something with or without my recommendation. If someone is willing to practice and learn how to properly and safely operate and own a handgun, then there is no doubt in my mind that this is the best option for them.
I said near the start of this post that this is almost a religious argument for many. Most opinions are going to be based on some life experience. There are no wrong answers, only levels of optimization for a specific situation.
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AcZ , I do agree with you overall. The thought of someone buying a gun who has never used one and never will learn, for self defense makes me cringe a little. But I know it happens. Judgeing from all the people I see lined up at the counters after something like 9-11 buying sks and M15's or clones, Iassume it happens regularly or in a fairly large volume at times. I guess thats another debate entirely. Overall I agree with the Shotgun. Like you said, at 10-20' with buckshot your chances of connecting on that first shot are a whole lot better. not to mention people love to sweep the house with handguns sticking 3' out from their bodys like they are at the shooting range.
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I'm no expert, but while the .357 is a great self defense weapon in the home, I would load it with .38 hollow points. You don't want to shoot a hole through the next house and the one after that. Same think on shooting a slug in a shotgun. I'd load birdshot in that. A rifle is better than nothing, but not the best weapon in close quarters.
I have a .357 and a 12 gauge shotgun, but I would go for the .357 first, unless I had a sawed off shotgun, then I might tend to use it first. Nothing like the sound of the pump shotgun to get the bad guy's attention.
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The only thing most will agree on including myself is a 12 or 10 gauge. the handgun debate is enjoyable and I hope it continues for some time , great post. The truth is there are few hand guns that will not perform home defense only people that cannot. I believe that glock 21 45cal is your best choice "it kind of like an old pair of sneakers that you have wore and wore so many times" Just make sure it is in perfect shape, and truly learn how to defend with it. and it will not fail you. Now that shotgun, I think the 870's have a camamdo style 22" or 20" barrel and a 6 shell tube, 7 total, flat back plastic stock, run both buckshot and slugs in it, then stash a small game vest full of shells close and you should be just fine. also your wife need to learn to use that shotgun without hesitation and in close quarters. I use a winchester 1300 in a similar role with the vest stashed. If you want another handgun go get one, a rifle has limited value for in home defense,but my barn with my tractor in it is 150ft behind my home so a bolt action 30-06 with night vision does the tractor defending(just kidding). have fun gun shopping!!
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Browning Hi-Power 9mm with Tritium sights.
Browning A-Bolt 30.06 short barrel. Leupold Vari-X scope.
Winchester model 12 pump shotgun. (pull the duck plug out)
These are my favorites to take with when I go shooting.
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Browning Hi-Power 9mm with Tritium sights.
Browning A-Bolt 30.06 short barrel. Leupold Vari-X scope.
Winchester model 12 pump shotgun. (pull the duck plug out)
These are my favorites to take with when I go shooting.
Glenn
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Found two guns a would like to buy on the Wilson Combat site. #1 Remington 12ga 1187 magnum with a 14" barrel (swat model) #2 UT-15 urban tactical rifle. However they only deliver to a FFL holders. How do you get one of those? And is it necessary to get an FFL to buy them in a gun shop? I always thought that you just needed one if you had a fully automatic.
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You can buy a short barrel shotgun under the same rules as a machine gun. It requires a tax stamp, but the price is much cheaper than the one for a full auto. It does require the approval of a local chief law enforcement officer or a superior court judge.
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